Dec. 17, 2021

(Flat Earth Dave) — Challenging the Globe: David Weiss on the Flat Earth Perspective (#72)

Gregory Favazza speaks with Flat Earth Dave ahead of a planned full episode. Dave explains how he went from running a successful solar business to becoming a full time flat earth podcaster, then lays out why he believes public trust in science, institutions, and media narratives needs to be questioned. The discussion touches on NASA, social conditioning, control systems, and the deeper issue of how belief is formed.

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Flat Earth Dave vs The Globe Model | Questioning NASA and Modern Cosmology

What happens when someone tries to prove the Earth is a globe… and ends up believing it’s flat instead? 

Your Transformation Station with Greg Favazza | Episode 72

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Episode Overview

In this conversation, Gregory Favazza sits down with Flat Earth Dave (@flatearthdavecom) ahead of a planned full episode on Your Transformation Station.

What begins as a technical setup conversation quickly turns into a preview of a much deeper debate.

Dave explains how he went from running a successful solar power company to becoming a full-time flat earth content creator. He shares why he says trying to debunk flat earth ultimately led him to question mainstream scientific narratives.

Why Do Some People Believe the Earth Is Flat?

The conversation moves into larger themes including:

• how belief systems are formed
• media influence and institutional trust
• skepticism toward NASA and space exploration
• psychological conditioning and obedience
• claims about global power structures

This pre-interview captures the unscripted moment before the real interview begins, offering listeners an early look at the ideas and tension points that will shape the full discussion.

Key Themes in This Conversation

From Corporate America to Full-Time Flat Earth Research

Dave describes his early career building a successful solar energy business before walking away from it to focus entirely on flat earth research and podcasting.

He says the shift happened after attempting to disprove flat earth arguments, which he claims ultimately changed his perspective.

How Belief Systems Are Formed

A major part of the conversation centers around the difference between belief and knowledge.

Dave argues that most people defend the globe model because it was taught to them during childhood rather than because they personally verified it.

Gregory pushes the conversation toward understanding how social upbringing and education shape worldview assumptions.

Skepticism Toward NASA and Space Narratives

Dave presents several claims questioning space missions, NASA footage, and Mars exploration.

These claims serve as the foundation of his broader argument that public understanding of space may be based on visual storytelling rather than direct evidence.

Power Structures and Control Systems

The discussion eventually expands beyond flat earth into broader ideas about control.

Dave argues that financial institutions, governments, and global organizations influence public perception and behavior.

Gregory intentionally pauses deeper examination of these claims so the full discussion can happen during the official interview episode.

What This Analysis Explores

In the full blog analysis linked below, Gregory examines several deeper themes that emerged during the conversation with Flat Earth Dave, including:

• How visual storytelling and media influence public perception of scientific ideas
• The difference between belief, evidence, and institutional trust in modern society
• Why controversial ideas often gain traction when people feel disconnected from authority
• How critical thinking and psychological awareness shape the way individuals interpret information

👉 Read the full analysis:

Visual Storytelling vs. Direct Evidence

Notable Quotes From the Conversation

“The way you become a flat earther is you try to prove the globe.”

Flat Earth Dave

“Belief is the enemy of knowing.”

Flat Earth Dave

“Somebody told you.”

Flat Earth Dave

“We’ve been programmed into believing flat earth is something that it’s not.”

Flat Earth Dave

“They control us with cartoons.”

— Flat Earth Dave

“What’s going on right now in the world is an intelligence test.”

Flat Earth Dave

“They control us with money. They control us with mind control.”

Flat Earth Dave

“If we ever get our freedom back, we’re not going to keep it if we don’t know who we are, where we are, or what we are.”

Flat Earth Dave

“We’re not moving. Earth is flat.”

Flat Earth Dave

Topics Discussed

  • Flat Earth Dave’s background
  • Leaving corporate America and the solar industry
  • Why he says trying to prove the globe led him into flat earth
  • Social conditioning and inherited belief
  • NASA footage and media skepticism
  • Mars rover and helicopter claims
  • Control systems, banking, and obedience
  • The idea of hidden power structures

Claims Discussed in the Interview

The following claims were presented by the guest and discussed during the conversation:

  • skepticism toward NASA space missions
  • arguments supporting flat-earth cosmology
  • critiques of heliocentric cosmology
  • questions about space exploration imagery
  • arguments about institutional trust and authority

These claims represent the guest’s perspective and arguments, which are explored during the discussion.

About Flat Earth Dave

Flat Earth Dave’s official website is Flat Earth Dave. His site also links out to his official Facebook, X, Instagram, Threads, and YouTube.

References Mentioned in This Episode

Professor Dave Humiliates Flat Earther David Weiss

NASA – National Aeronautics and Space Administration

International Space Station (ISS)

Mars Helicopter Ingenuity Mission

SpaceX Starship Test Flights

Council on Foreign Relations (CFR)

Bilderberg Meetings

The Trilateral Commission

Club of Rome

Royal Institute of International Affairs (Chatham House)

Bill Nye (“Bill Nye the Science Guy”)

Neil deGrasse Tyson

Academic Research on Conspiracy Beliefs

The Psychology of Conspiracy Theories

The Role of Conspiracist Ideation in Rejecting Science

Belief in Conspiracy Theories: Basic Principles

Videos and other references of Flat Earth Dave

Professor Dave

The Breuniverse Podcast By Jim Breuer

Disclaimer Section

This episode contains claims and interpretations presented by the guest during a recorded discussion. These statements are included as part of the conversation and should not be interpreted as verified scientific conclusions.

The podcast encourages critical thinking and invites listeners to review the referenced materials and sources when forming their own perspectives.

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Transcript

Gregory Favazza:
Testing, test, test, testing, test, test. Testing. What the fuck.

Testing, testing. Hello, hello.

Hello.

I got to fix that. Oh.

Test.

Test. Hey Dave, what’s going on? Are we doing a pre interview or an actual show right now?

Flat Earth Dave:
We’re doing a pre interview.

Gregory Favazza:
Correct. All right, yes. Do you want to allow me to record also?

Flat Earth Dave:
Yeah, go on ahead. You have to click the three dots next to my mute button. If you put the mouse over me, the three dots will show up. Then allow to record.

Gregory Favazza:
Okay.

This is allowed to record.

I have never done this part, so move your mouse over my image?

Flat Earth Dave:
Sure. Then the mute and the three dots will show up in the upper right hand corner.

Gregory Favazza:
Yeah. Then you click the three dots and a little menu pops down. I remember those three dots, but that’s not showing up.

Flat Earth Dave:
Are you in speaker view or gallery view?

Gregory Favazza:
I’m currently in, it looks like, I just got a Mac so I’m adjusting to this.

Flat Earth Dave:
It’s all right. I’m on a Mac too. Go to gallery view and that way we’re both the same size. Then put your mouse on me. It’ll say mute, three dots. Click the three dots.

Gregory Favazza:
Does that work? It says mute, stop video, pin, make host, rename.

Flat Earth Dave:
Just click make host. That’ll work.

Gregory Favazza:
Yeah, here we go. All right, good to go. Oops, did I raise my hand? I don’t want to raise my hand.

We’re good. Okay.

Yes, so I did not know that. That’s definitely new for me to see that. That’s pretty wild.

So, Flat Earth Dave, tell me about yourself.

Flat Earth Dave:
I was a normal person. I still am a normal person, I guess, depends what you call normal. I worked in corporate America, started my own business, was doing really well, and I was doing a podcast on conspiracies. Then flat earth was introduced. I thought that was crazy, and then I tried to debunk it. Six years later, I’m the host of the Flat Earth podcast. I quit my own company to do this full time. I developed an app that helps people learn about flat earth, and I’m waking up millions of people. It’s awesome.

Gregory Favazza:
So what did you do before you podcasted?

Flat Earth Dave:
I was in the solar power industry. I started a commercial solar power development company that was doing super well, making more money than I ever thought I could make. I was the CEO of my own company, which I had put on my vision board like five years earlier. I thought that was never going to happen, and then it happened, and then I walked away from it all.

Gregory Favazza:
So when did you come in contact with this, the flat earth theory or understanding the world is flat?

Flat Earth Dave:
The way you become a flat earther is you try to prove the globe. That’s how you become a flat earther. When I first heard about it, I banned people from my social media for even being so stupid as to ask me to watch a one minute video. I thought they were idiots and didn’t deserve to watch my podcast or comment on our social media.

Then another researcher, a female, said, “Dave, there’s so much deception in the world, and it’s worse than that.” I said, “What do you mean?” She said, “I think the earth is flat.” I said, “Not you too, Sophia.” She told me to watch these videos and tell her what I think. I did, and I found it interesting, but I still thought I was just going to prove it wrong.

Six years later, I’m offering a hundred bitcoins if somebody can find me something dumber than the globe model. Anything. There’s nothing dumber than the globe model once you understand it.

People that don’t believe in flat earth, belief is the enemy of knowing. Once you understand what the flat earth model isn’t, and once you understand that you know nothing about the globe, then that’s when you start seeing things.

For example, I assume you’re a glober, right? No offense.

Gregory Favazza:
Yes.

Flat Earth Dave:
All right. So I’m going to ask you three simple questions about the globe.

How many times does it rotate in 24 hours?

Gregory Favazza:
I would say at least almost once.

Flat Earth Dave:
It’s once, you know, minus four seconds or something like that.

What is the circumference of the globe at the equator?

Gregory Favazza:
I did used to know that, but I do not remember that.

Flat Earth Dave:
How far is the sun?

Gregory Favazza:
Another one I used to know.

Flat Earth Dave:
What I’m pointing out here, and by the way, you got one right, so you did better than most people. Most people get the first question wrong.

We have a couple guys going around the country. They’re doing flea markets with a booth, and they offer a hundred dollars for anyone that can answer three simple questions about the globe that they’re defending, and nobody has won the hundred dollars in forever.

So the concept of what you think flat earth is, if I thought flat earth was that, I’d be laughing at flat earthers too. No offense to you. I was you. Everyone was you. We’ve been programmed into believing flat earth is something that it’s not. We’ve been programmed to believe that Bill Nye and Neil deGrasse Tyson, whatever they say, is gospel. But they’ll never talk to us. They’ll only do video after video, straw manning us and saying nonsense, but they’ll never address our points because they can’t.

The question is why the lie? This is one of the biggest lies ever. It controls our minds with cartoons.

Gregory Favazza:
I can see that. I definitely have questions about that.

There are a lot of directions I want to go here and I don’t know where to go at this part.

Flat Earth Dave:
Here’s how it goes. As I talk, you’re going to have questions on top of questions on top of questions. Just ask them one at a time and I’ll work through them. There’s no question you have that I haven’t heard already.

The more questions you have, the better. Then you’ll start thinking, “I never really thought about it that way.”

Questions like, wouldn’t it be daylight all the time if the earth was flat? What’s on the other side? How come no one’s falling off the edge? How come no one’s taking a picture of the edge? What about sticks and shadows? Didn’t the Greeks figure it out 2,000 years ago? What about boats over the horizon? What about seasons?

When you start looking into how all these things happen, most of them prove the earth is a flat, non rotating plane.

Gregory Favazza:
What do people usually argue and say? If you say the earth is flat, what is their comeback?

Flat Earth Dave:
What’s your number one reason you think the earth is a globe? Just one reason.

Gregory Favazza:
I would say it’s my social upbringing to this very point.

Flat Earth Dave:
So somebody told you.

Gregory Favazza:
Yeah. Somebody told me.

Flat Earth Dave:
Did they show you anything other than cartoons to prove it?

Gregory Favazza:
Other than massive videos.

Flat Earth Dave:
Videos like what?

Gregory Favazza:
Video from NASA. Something similar to what you have right here floating in the background.

Flat Earth Dave:
No. NASA doesn’t. NASA’s all nonsense. This is a balloon at 100,000 feet. They use balloon footage for their rocket videos. No one has gone up in a rocket. It’s all nonsense. It’s all CGI. It’s all blimps and all sorts of stuff.

This is what they put off as real. This was a SpaceX launch not too long ago. This thing is supposedly going to blast off. It’s a test flight showing how it’s going to land. Look at this thing. This is not real. Look at the angle it’s being filmed at. It’s kind of a side angle.

Gregory Favazza:
Okay.

Flat Earth Dave:
How long could you have that side angle the higher it goes? Look, the engines are burning out right there. Now look how high it is all of a sudden. It’s interesting. Now it’s going to free fall back to earth. This thing is gigantic. It weighs 40,000 pounds empty.

Now hold on. It’s free falling. Look at the smoke. Is that free falling? Is that 40,000 pounds free falling? Watch. It’s going to go even slower. The next shot, look at the smoke now. It’s barely moving. It’s like it’s not even moving at all. It’s just smoke growing off of it.

Now look how high it is. This is what they showed us in real time. Now watch. It’s going to magically turn over. Oh, how did it get so high again? Then it’s going to rotate. Look at this shot. That’s very cinematic.

Two of the three engines will go off because they can’t even control their own fireworks. The thing looks like it’s on fire. It’s barely moving. Look at the smoke. It’s going to land in CGI smoke. That is clearly CGI smoke, and we’re supposed to believe this thing landed right where it took off from.

Gregory Favazza:
Is this a combination of different countries?

Flat Earth Dave:
No, this is SpaceX right here. This is nonsense. Here’s a different country. This is the only evidence that China landed a rover on Mars last month. This is what they showed us. That’s it. Kids fresh out of space camp in a control room, some crappy animation, people clapping. It’s all nonsense.

When you look at what NASA shows, like the space station, how about this? How come there’s no land? I know what your answer is. Go ahead.

Gregory Favazza:
How come there’s no land? Honestly, because they’re over the ocean?

Flat Earth Dave:
That’s what you should say, but actually I’m showing you how easy it is to be fooled. We filmed this in our front yard with a solar panel. NASA gets 64 million dollars every single day.

What you’re seeing here is the external tank of the space shuttle. Remember the big orange tank? It’s gigantic. It’s the size of a blimp. You know why it’s the size of a blimp? Because it is a blimp.

This is being filmed by the people who are supposedly in the shuttle on their way up to space. This thing is falling back to earth. How is it falling back to earth? It’s going to burn up before it gets to those clouds.

Watch. A little handkerchief is going to blow by and show you how fast this thing is moving. Not very fast at all. This is filled with helium. This is a blimp.

We catch them doing real time editing where they blank things out. There’s a recovery ship that’s going to grab this thing, but they screwed up and it’ll show up in the clouds. These guys are supposedly going up to space while this thing is falling thousands of miles an hour and somehow they keep it in focus. What kind of zoom lens do they have? How is this thing going sideways at 17,000 miles an hour while the spaceship’s going up faster than 17,000 miles an hour?

Gregory Favazza:
What I see here is you do have footage that shows that there is some stuff, there’s something going on. Do you think NASA has made it to space at least once?

Flat Earth Dave:
Space doesn’t exist. Space is not what you think it is. What we call space is most likely water. There’s waters above and waters below. Gaddafi discovered infinite water below the oceans and made the largest aquifer project in all of history. It took him 40 years. He was going to feed all of Africa with free farms and water access, and then Hillary Clinton and Obama blew it up with depleted uranium bombs after 40 years.

Gregory Favazza:
Interesting. I’m not familiar with that.

Flat Earth Dave:
It’s called the Great Man Made River. Look it up. It’s on my channel.

What I’m showing you here is the only proof that we landed a rover on Mars a couple months ago. A bunch of kids in a control room, some animation, people clapping.

Do you know anything about parachutes? People have parachuted from great heights, and the parachute won’t even open until 50,000 or 60,000 feet because the air isn’t thick enough. They say the air on Mars is one percent of Earth’s atmosphere, so that would be like parachuting from 150,000 feet. We can’t even get a helium balloon over 120,000 feet. So this thing is supposedly parachuting down in an atmosphere as thin as 150,000 feet here on earth.

Then in the rover there’s a helicopter that’s going to fly around Mars. Have you heard about the helicopter?

Gregory Favazza:
No, I have not heard about the helicopter.

Flat Earth Dave:
I got a helicopter, and it’s going to fly in that one percent atmosphere when we can’t get a helicopter here to the top of Everest because the air is too thin. But they have one on Mars that can fly in one percent atmosphere. It’s all nonsense. They make it so obvious because they don’t want to break our free will. They want to give us the opportunity to see the truth.

What’s going on right now in the world, and for a long time, is an intelligence test and most people are failing miserably.

Gregory Favazza:
That I do believe. With the intelligence piece, we can probably relate that to Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader. But with this helicopter, is there anything different or what you’re telling me?

Flat Earth Dave:
They say the blades go faster. Well, why don’t we have blades here on earth that go faster so we can rescue people dying on top of Everest?

Check this out. Here’s a shot from the drone of its own shadow. It’s looking straight down, so it had to take the shot at noon because they said the camera points straight down. Noon on Mars. Somehow they got the whole shadow.

How did it film the super fast blades? These are the propellers. How come they’re so crisp and sharp? I have a drone. When it’s spinning, even when it’s idling, you can’t see the blades. If I took a picture with it at high shutter speed, I still barely see them and they blur. Look at this.

Gregory Favazza:
That’s a good point. That’s a very good point.

Flat Earth Dave:
Remember, they say it has super fast blades. And what’s up with these shadows? Look at this dark, crisp shadow. Show me a dark, crisp shadow of anything in the air 15 feet over the ground. Shadows disperse.

Gregory Favazza:
Yeah. There’s a lot here that I want to hit.

One, when you say they’re trying to control us, I know who, but I’d like to understand for those who are trying to control us, what are they trying to control us for, and what do you think the outcome is?

Flat Earth Dave:
They look at us as useless eaters. These people, I use that term lightly, we’re their slaves. You think they abolished slavery, but they didn’t. They just put us in a prison that we don’t see. So we don’t see the walls, so we don’t realize that we’re slaves.

It’s like The Truman Show where Truman says, “I want to be an explorer,” and the teacher says, “There’s nothing left to explore.” If you live on a ball, there’s really not much left to explore other than outer space. The only thing that’s been to outer space is your imagination.

They’ve indoctrinated us. I asked you earlier when you learned about outer space and whether they showed you anything other than cartoons. The answer is before you could talk, and no, they didn’t show you anything other than cartoons.

The people that run the world are small groups. The Council on Foreign Relations, the United Nations, Bilderberg Group, Club of Rome, Royal Institute of International Affairs, and the Trilateral Commission. There’s also a small group of corporations. There are only about six corporations that own all the other corporations, and they’re run by many of the same people. These are the people who run the world.

They control us with money. They control us with mind control. With all the nonsense going on in the world, why am I talking about flat earth? Because if we ever get our freedom back, we’re not going to keep it if we don’t know who we are, where we are, what we are, or the power of our own minds.

They’ve taken that away from us, and we gave it to them willingly because they make things obvious enough that we could see it if we wanted to.

Gregory Favazza:
I really want to dissect that, but I want to save it for the show to preserve the authenticity of our conversation.

But with this round table, are you referring to levels of power? If we were to look at who’s really in control, I would definitely tell you the point: it ain’t Biden.

Flat Earth Dave:
Thank you. It definitely is not him.

It’s one of the Rothschilds, definitely, but there are people above the Rothschilds, names that we don’t know, people that don’t live where we live or where we understand our world is. We live here in the Antarctic basin, but what’s out there in the outer space? Maybe there are other continents beyond Antarctica. This ring would be Antarctica, and this is extra territory out there. Maybe there are extraterrestrials in the outer space. Who knows? This is a Japanese map.

This is our world here. This is Antarctica, the shoreline of our world, and these are other continents out in another ocean.

Gregory Favazza:
That’s interesting. So we’re looking almost at the globe as we know it. If we were to look at a map and see the globe for what it is—

Flat Earth Dave:
There is no globe. They took our map and wrapped it around a sphere. They warped everything.

Go look. Do you have a globe in your house? Go look at the bottom of it. There’s a sticker on it that says not for educational purposes, for entertainment only, or decorative purposes only.

Gregory Favazza:
I have seen that, and I wondered what that means.

Flat Earth Dave:
One quick thing and then I got to go.

The heliocentric model is absolutely insane. They tell us that we’re spinning at a thousand miles an hour, orbiting at 66,000 miles an hour, while also chasing the sun with all the other planets, stars, and moons in synchronistic motion at half a million miles an hour. You can’t fathom what that is.

This is the hypersonic sled. Watch it carefully. It’s going to come by in two seconds. It’s going Mach 8.6. Did you see it?

Gregory Favazza:
Yes.

Flat Earth Dave:
Did you really see it? If you hear it, it’s mind blowing. Watch one more time. There it goes.

We’re orbiting ten times faster than that, and we’re chasing the sun ninety times faster than that. But somehow, with all of these elliptical orbits speeding up and slowing down at these hypersonic speeds, we have lakes that look calm.

We’re not moving. Earth is flat. Until people realize that, we’re going to be stuck in their banking system and their control system. If everybody woke up tomorrow and said, “I don’t believe anything you do, and you guys are the banks, we’re out, we’re using our own cryptocurrency,” game over. We’d take over the world. The elite would be nobody. That’s how fast it would change.

But people are addicted to the money they control us with. It’s literally mind control. That’s where we’re at.

Gregory Favazza:
This is good. Yes, this is great information and I can’t wait to prep very deeply to have a good recording.

Flat Earth Dave:
Download my app, start watching the videos, and then you’ll be a flat earther before we do our interview.

Gregory Favazza:
All right, I will.

Flat Earth Dave:
All right.

Gregory Favazza:
All righty. You take it easy.

Flat Earth Dave:
All right, man. Thanks.

Gregory Favazza:
Thank you.

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